iansltx Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 My guess is the answer to this is "awhile" since 5.4.0 only came out a few weeks ago, but I figured I'd ask when 5.4 would be supported on shared hosting plans. Because the new array syntax stuff (among other things) is just plain cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakEyez Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 My guess is the answer to this is "awhile" since 5.4.0 only came out a few weeks ago, but I figured I'd ask when 5.4 would be supported on shared hosting plans. Because the new array syntax stuff (among other things) is just plain cool. Personally I'd be for seeing PHP 5.4 next to PHP 5.3 but then you would have to convince people that PHP 5.2 is not worth having on the servers anymore. And that hasn't been supported since 2010 and some people think it's still necessary. PHP 5.4 from what I can see only adds a few new features but it deletes a lot of things that should have been gone a long time ago like register_globals and safe_mode are no longer settings in PHP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael D. Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 It *may* be possible to have 5.2, 5.3, and 5.4 side-by-side but that begs the question: where does it end? We obviously cannot continue installing newer versions of software while leaving older versions installed indefinitely that are no longer being supported. We also cannot upgrade so quickly as to cause major issues for a majority of our client base. Being that 5.4 just came out, it's unlikely it will be available anytime soon, I do not even believe cPanel supports the installation of 5.4 just yet (at least, not last I looked). If you wanted 5.4 right now you would need a VPS or Dedicated Server with a custom PHP installation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakEyez Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 It *may* be possible to have 5.2, 5.3, and 5.4 side-by-side but that begs the question: where does it end? We obviously cannot continue installing newer versions of software while leaving older versions installed indefinitely that are no longer being supported. We also cannot upgrade so quickly as to cause major issues for a majority of our client base. Being that 5.4 just came out, it's unlikely it will be available anytime soon, I do not even believe cPanel supports the installation of 5.4 just yet (at least, not last I looked). If you wanted 5.4 right now you would need a VPS or Dedicated Server with a custom PHP installation. I don't think I would want 3 versions running side-by-side. Personally I'd rather see the unsupported PHP 5.2 removed and just stick with PHP 5.3 only. PHP 5.3 was released back on June 30, 2009. If there are scripts that haven't been updated in that time I would be more worried about them being a security risk to other clients than getting the newest features of PHP 5.4 that most people will not use for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael D. Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 I don't think I would want 3 versions running side-by-side. Personally I'd rather see the unsupported PHP 5.2 removed and just stick with PHP 5.3 only. PHP 5.3 was released back on June 30, 2009. If there are scripts that haven't been updated in that time I would be more worried about them being a security risk to other clients than getting the newest features of PHP 5.4 that most people will not use for awhile.A script using an older version of PHP doesn't inherently make it insecure. It's still possible to even code things in PHP 4 that are 100% secure, it just takes a lot more effort on the developer's part. We still get asked regularly if we support PHP4 as the prospective customers' site does not support PHP 5+. Unfortunately there are *far* too many scripts that do not work on 5.3 yet for us to push out 5.2. I wish we could, honestly, as it would simplify our support requirements - but not at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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